Post by fiannawolf on Apr 30, 2015 14:45:11 GMT -5
I know I'm not always as fair as I could be but 500, the JAQing thing and some of the other stuff you have posted: Aren't you going by a talking points playbook too? Just asking. As I understand things most people, to convince them to whatever side, usually have bullet points they cover. That's why I feel that the Hugos stuff and what's happening with GG wont be going anywhere any time soon. Without talking to people and always assuming X side is completely right, doesn't that cause people to put on blinders? Even though I might not agree with the majority of people I follow on tumblr about various topics, I do appreciate seeing their opinions and then investigating the situation. Right now I feel the Pro side does have more fact ammo on their side, even if the emotions are important, usually its facts that will sway people. Generally that is. Politics and any movement have so much muddy water its hard to tell fact from photoshop from opinion sometimes.
Sad puppies wants at its core: Diverse and fun novels to rejuvenate the genre. They want to promote people that wouldn't have a chance to be noticed. From what I gather they feel that SFF has stagnated with books that showcase diverse ideas but its bland. Like reading a tech manual. Must hit all current social issues bullet points.
The Established Hugo side: Wants to showcase Diverse writers that they feel merit the most attention. But its a gated elite community that even I as a reader didn't know how exclusive til Brianna Wu went on the warpath. The only voices heard will be the ones they consider most important, so "No vote" to throw upstarts out. Unless its upstarts we agree with. Like the Oscars.
This is just my opinion. Both povs have their drawbacks and merits. They both want more diverse books and writers on the field but have different opinions on how that should be done. Again after digging into various articles both for and against, I've come to the conclusion that the Hugos do need a revamp. Combine the best ideas from both camps.
blip.tv/foldablehuman/s4e7-gamergate-7071206
Link above from your previous post: Isn't Anti GG using the same formula to judge pro gg? Base assumptions that is. That's why I do follow people with various opinions. Because my base assumptions about everything need to be challenged. Living in an echo chamber won't allow me to grow.
