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Star Wars Discussion Jan 2, 2016 9:41:21 GMT -5 Noelemahc likes this

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Post by gmandam on Jan 2, 2016 9:41:21 GMT -5

Jan 2, 2016 1:51:51 GMT -5 Axalon said:

Jan 1, 2016 13:57:50 GMT -5 gmandam said:

* Kylo Ren, intentional or not, comes across as Anakin 2.0. Ideally he should have kept taking the helmet off for when he faces Han (and the Son reveal as well), it would have made him seem more intimidating than the face he has (Which essentially reminds me of one of my cousins, not terrifying at all). That said, it's only one film, it's hard to say where exactly they plan to take him at the moment, so with a little work it'd be easy to make him more villainous.

Kylo Ren is kind of what I wished Anakin to be. Far more temperamental and hard to control instead of some sappy love story making him fall to evil.

It probably would have made Anakin's fall more believable, and certainly would have made the points regarding not training him feel less hollow when it comes to the issue of his anger.

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Jan 2, 2016 1:51:51 GMT -5 Axalon said:

Jan 1, 2016 13:57:50 GMT -5 gmandam said:

I feel like I'm missing context as to why there's a resistance in the first place if the First Order is quite clearly gunning for the New Republic. I feel confused as to if the planet that was destroyed was Coruscant or not (I assumed so, and have been told it's not, so it's up in the air). I feel confused as to why the resistance only had something like 4 or 5 wings of x-wing fighters when they just only came out of a galaxy spanning rebellion 20-30 years or so ago. I feel confused as to why the republic can't just storm the First Order when they either destroyed Coruscant or some other City-Planet-Hiveworld and instead leave it to the resistance.

In short, I feel there's at least two to five minutes of context cut from the film that would have made the whole Resistance, New Republic, First Order deal much cleaer.

It was some other planet, not Coruscant. Given that the First Order has access to the Empire's archives and the Republic/Resistance does not the First Order could very well be in control of Coruscant while the Republic set up shop elsewhere and got blown up by the superweapon. As for why there's a resistance, after mulling it over I feel that they were a proxy group "unofficially" being supported by the Republic to attack the First Order without actually going to war. Clearly they did a poor job masking their relationship, given that the Order blows up the Republic capitol for the meddling.

I've heard that said before when I've brought it up, and I can buy it not being Coruscant but my gut reaction in watching the film was City Planet = Coruscant. Coupled with the fact that they were targeting the new Republic, it's a fair assumption to make. Based off what Noelemahc said regarding the scenes cut, it would have been helpful to have kept the five minute conversation with the Senator we view the planet getting Kerbstomped by the laser just to flesh out that no this isn't Coruscant, and yes, there is a need for there to be a Resistance because we (The Republic) sure as shit can't deal with the First Order.

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Post by gmandam on Jan 2, 2016 9:41:21 GMT -5

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